Compatability Rant
Monday, 30th August 2004
This is part rant part cry for help…….
I use Firefox as my main browser. I use Thunderbird for email. I recently removed Outlook Express from my computer because I do not use it and do not intend to. The only reason I still tolerate IE on my system is to check that any sites I create are viewable in IE. I have no intention of changing this.
While I had my computer up at Uni I was required to access any external sites through the Uni proxy - I also got very good at setting this up for other people who couldn’t figure out how to change this very basic setting.
Naturally as soon as I got my computer back home this was no longer required and I removed the setting.
Given my tendancy to rant about people not keeping their machines secure and updated, I felt that not installing Windows Service Pack II would be somewhat hypocritical - So I installed it.
And now:
- IE is permanently set as my default browser - despite me telling it not to be in multiple places.
- Outlook Express is back on my Start Menu - but not in my Add/Remove Programs, so I can’t get rid of it. This also applies to IE.(Note: Yes, it is in the the Add/Remove Windows Components section but that only takes it off the Start Menu - nothing more)
- My proxy settings have been reinstated for IE somewhere where I can’t find them - and seeing as I’ve now graduated from Bath my login has expired and I can’t access anything but an error page
The reason this is annoying is that if I get an email with a link that I want to follow - for instance any of the dozen news mails I get every day, or any comment-spam I want to blacklist, or just some friendly person sending me a link - I cannot just click on the link as this opens IE, asks for my proxy username and password and then gives me an error page. So I’m stuck having to copy-paste links manually.
And it’s really annoying.
Any ideas anyone?
Mark:
WRT the proxy settings I’d suggest searching through the registry for wwwcache.
As for the rest, if that’s something that’s being done deliberately I can see MS getting into a fair amount of trouble for it.
Okay, so you know me well enough to know this, but it is this kind of silly “*?$ that I get annoyed with whenever I have to use Windows.
Monday 30th, August 2004
at 3:13 pm
Elly:
Hmm, I think I’ve gotten rid of all references to the proxy in the registry, but I’m still getting the errors….
And I’ve just noticed (in supurb ironical fashion) that seeing as I can’t get to the internet via IE…..WINDOWS UPDATE WON’T RUN…. so yeah, it looks like a critical windows update might be preventing me from continuing to update…. I’d laugh if I weren’t so annoyed.
Wednesday 1st, September 2004
at 9:05 pm
Mark:
Oh I love the irony…
You might be able to do something clever on the firewall/router? Catch the outbound requests and perform mangleing on them and send them to a server you can talk to, your ISP is probably running one.
It’s a bodge, but if any of the later updates fix this…
Wednesday 1st, September 2004
at 9:20 pm
Elly:
Yeah, that would require me to have a little more control over my firewall than on/off…
Anyway, I uninstalled SP2 in the hope that would help but it hasn’t so I’m really not sure what’s going on.
I may have to start throwing things soon….
grumbles
Thursday 2nd, September 2004
at 10:16 am
Jay:
I’d have to say this is a problem that is localised to your machine. I’ve stuck SP2 on all 5 computers in our house, plus another 4 at work, with none of these problems, and I use Firefox and Thunderbird the same as you do.
I actually had no idea Outlook Express was ever in Add/Remove… and the fact that it isn’t now doesn’t surprise me at all. If you are really that zealous about getting rid of it, then just delete the shortcut and it’s folder in Program Files.
Unfortunately I have no useful suggestions to solve the other problems beyond FFR, but hey, who said comments were supposed to be useful. Just my 2c that I felt the need to add, given how everyone is hating on SP2 and I’ve had no bad experiences yet.
Saturday 4th, September 2004
at 9:00 pm
Elly:
Unfortunately I have no useful suggestions to solve the other problems beyond FFR
I was kinda hoping to avoid that, but the more dead end solutions I follow the more likely it’s looking…
Saturday 4th, September 2004
at 11:11 pm
Elly:
What I actually did was (abridged version: minus going round in circles for 2 weeks):
Run a full backup with Norton Ghost onto a separate partition of my harddrive
Format C:
Reinstall Windows
Reinstall Norton
Reinstate Ghost Backup
Change network cables
Download and install IE6+SP1
And now it all appears to be working again…*touch wood*
Sunday 19th, September 2004
at 1:42 pm